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May 7, 2025

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Well the Angels won for once last night as Toronto defense and closer melted down. First time in almost a month they scored more than 5 in a game. Crazy right?

Part of that was Yoan Mocada returning and he hit a 3 run blast to seal the deal. As the team of misfit former prospects, he fits in real nice here.

To make room for his return though the deck chairs were shuffled some and relief pitchers rotate through the worst bullpen in Baseball. Oh and Touki Toussant was DFA-ED right after he was called up. Kinda rude.

Hunter Strickland is still at it and is now an Angel. Minor leauge deal but he will see action here soon with how bad this group is.

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Oven mitts are now down all the way to the youth level. Sorry I mean sliding mitts. It has been a decade why haven’t the Angels done a Mike Trout oven mitt giveaway? They are so bad at it. Notably, at the lowest levels you aren’t even supposed to slide head first so it is because of fashion. Like having a MIKE TROUT OVEN MITT COME ON!

Speaking of sliding into bases, what is happening in Miami? Apparently the Marlins have given up the most stolen bases by far.

Juan Soto walks a lot. He walks so much that he now has walked the most out of any player before turning 27.

The Giants blew out the Cubs… In extra innings. How is 14-5 only the 4th worst extra innings loss?

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

This year’s draft with Perry in charge is just flat out scary. Read Turk’s comments and all 3 are right imho. If Perry does not take one of the first 3, he should be fired. He likes fastball pitchers who bring it 100+ mph, in Arnold you have a well-rounded pitcher with exceptional control. Hernandez is crazy good prep (I’ve seen him twice) and in Holiday another former MLB player’s son (Tatis, Vlady Jr., Witt, etc.) who could be our next Trouty. Get the picture (Yes, we see.) but PTP may not, as he is not that smart.

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Twebur

21 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Prepare yourself GPB. It’s the Angels……they’ll take someone else… disregarding the vast majority of people‘s opinions.

-trAdition

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

Holliday
Arnold
Hernandez

Dear Mr. Callis, why do we want the 10th rated player in the draft who is just a hard thrower looking for TJS. Arnold at least knows the strike zone. Holliday is a once every 10 year’s draft choice.

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Probably a question better posed to Minasian and his scouts than Callis/Mayo. They’re mocking Doyle to the Angels based on who they’re hearing the team is connected to, and their recent drafting trends. (They mocked Holliday to the Nats at #1.)

Been mentioning this in the weekly NCAA articles, but I really think Angels fans interested in the draft should take a good look at Kyson Witherspoon as well.

Best collegiate right-hander in the draft class. 2.12 ERA / 2.23 FIP. .181 batting average against (Arnold is .182, but Witherspoon has pitched 17 more innings, in the SEC.) Second in the nation in DIGS, 95-98 FB that hits triple digits. 60 grade slider, five pitch portfolio, four of them arguably above average. Easy, repeatably delivery, unlike Doyle. One of seven collegiate arms currently with 100+ strikeouts on the season.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

21 days ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

I just really have trouble believing Doyle will go #2 even if Perry knows guys in Knoxville etc.

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I dunno – my gut has been telling me it’s Doyle or Arquette for a few weeks, so when Callis says that’s what they’re actually hearing, it seems to ring true.

But to be fair, he said they’re in on all the top college lefties – meaning Arnold and Anderson too. Though he did say “Doyle in particular”.

Having been through Bachman and Joyce, it’s surprising that the lesson has not been learned. Bachman has a 70-grade fastball, with an unorthodox, effortful delivery as well. Like Doyle, he was virtually unhittable in college, with a 1.81 ERA, a 1.46 FIP, a K/9 north of 14.

None of it mattered in pro ball. We’re basically hoping he passes his rehab stint in low-A ball this week, and we get him back for, what, 4-6 weeks before he succumbs to another injury?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

20 days ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

we took Joyce in round 3 if I remember right. If we get a closer out of that I’m fine.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

21 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Ummmm…. once every ten years? Really?

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

IMHO, yes, he is a future all-star and can play left side infield. I would like to hear what you think of Holliday, who do you believe should be top 3 choices-really.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

20 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

I think Holliday, Arnold, Hernandez are fine top 3 guys… though i think Witherspoon, Anderson and LaViollette could all sneak in by their season’s end. Houston too.

I just don’t think Holiday is a “once in a decade” prospect. He’s just a solid 1st rounder, wouldn’t even be near #1 in a lot of draft classes. I actually like Hernandez more than him.

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JackFrost

21 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

I dunno, I like the upside of Hernandez. In the modern league you need guys with a plus, plus fastball in order to have a real “Ace who can dominate.” I think the days of Greg Maddox or even Kershaw are over. I’d take Hernandez over Arnold.

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Nothing wrong with taking Hernandez, except I question whether or not the team has good enough coaches in the minors.

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Turk's Teeth

20 days ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Well, the Angels’ top prospect is Dana, drafted as a prep pitcher, so there’s that.

When it comes to development, Hernandez is about as polished a teenage arm as you’re going to find, and IMO the highest talent in the draft class, prep or college.

My first round short list is presently:

Seth Hernandez
Kyson Witherspoon
Jamie Arnold
Ethan Holliday

In that order. Then it’s a big gap and a clutch of other names who seem like mid-to-late first rounders in a typical draft year.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

20 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Yep. I’ve watched a lot of Hernandez. To the point where I am over my fear of HS pitchers and i want him.

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Eric_in_Portland

21 days ago

Kikuchi to get his first win tonight. He’ll leave with a 9-2 lead, Angels hold on 9-8.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

The BP only gives up six runs?

Let me go to the Rose/Ippei betting line on that.

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Twebur

21 days ago

start firing people!

Texas had 16 hits in their first game since adding Bret Boone as a hitting coach

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/rangers-bats-come-alive-coach-022510120.html

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Twebur

21 days ago

As much as it sucks being an Angels fan, at least we don’t get our asses beat by the ushers, or jump off our RF wall. Pirates fans are having a rough go of it.
Our fans beat the opposing team from the stands, just ask that super dick Tom Pham.

A stadium employee lost it on a Pittsburgh Pirates fan, throwing punches and then whipping him with his belt.

https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1920184171445825544

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cookmeister

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

considering our ushers are all 60+ it would be pretty embarrassing if we were getting our asses kicked

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Slow motion swings with their belt….grandpa’s pants fall down…LOL

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Not funny. 🙄

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

I think it is growing up with all the many years of coal dust and coke oven fallout in Pennsylvania-They’re all crazy.

I have family in Pennsylvania, so…..I know.

When Philadelphia continues to adore a crack head, jail roach, car thief, drug addict, felonious drunk like Lenny Dykstra, that tells you a lot about Philadelphia/Pennsylvania.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

21 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

The Yinzers will get very angry with you for lumping them in with Philly…..

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Twebur

21 days ago

2. Angels: Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee…..probably not Volunteering to come join the Angels

On the clock: Pipeline’s first official 2025 mock draft is here!

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2025-mock-draft-may-6

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Eric_in_Portland

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

man, I am so nervous about this. I just don’t trust Perry. Even though I’m well aware that baseball draft picks notoriously don’t pan out I still look at our #2 spot and hope we get a generational player.

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cookmeister

21 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

Why not trust Perry? I think he’s shown a pretty good eye for arms for the most part.
That being said, Doyle isn’t my top choice, but that’s a mock from Callis

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Was there a /s intended after that first sentence? He selected 19 pitchers in the 2021 draft, without a single one currently healthy or making a clear impact. His pitcher selections last draft are largely relievers that they’re attempting to convert to starters, w/ uneven results thus far.

His track record on drafting pitchers is pretty poor to date. If Caden Dana finally materializes, that will be the first starter in four drafts that will have stuck at the MLB level from Minasian’s domestic drafts.

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cookmeister

20 days ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

Not saying he is perfect by any means, but you could def argue to a varying degree he has an eye for the talent. Whether that talent works out is another story. Bachman (injured), Silseth (first in the class to the bigs, also hurt), many of those draftees traded.

Dana, Darrell-Hicks, Natera jr., Hurtado, young DSL guys, not to mention the italian and Klassen.

Our pitching on the farm ranked, what, 4th at the end of the year last year on the pipeline? That doesn’t just happen if our GM is that bad at identifying talent

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

I don’t think you’re going to get a generational player if Callis/Mayo are correct. You’re going to get a 2-3 WAR infielder who hits .270 and 15-20 HRs per year in Arquette, or fastball-dominant fireballer with delivery and injury red flags in Doyle.

I hope they’re wrong, but the Perry draft room has tendencies, and to date, they’re not great.

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

This is one of the first mocks I’ve seen that speaks to actual FO connections to players. Fits my expectations of Minasian thus far – going with the big fastball (Doyle) on the model of past selections like Bachman or Joyce, or going with the high floor / lower ceiling position player like Arquette.

Sigh. Not what I would do, but fits the mold of fast-tracked players with holes in their profiles.

This shouldn’t be hard. You have the best prep RHP in half a decade on the board in Hernandez, plus two college pitchers in Arnold and Witherspoon that combine safety with potential #2 projection. Lastly, you have a 3B with premium bloodlines and 60+ grade power.

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GrandpaBaseball

21 days ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

Great post here.

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Twebur

21 days ago

Few days ago, not sure if it got a mention

Angels 2024 fifth-round pick Dylan Jordan with a solid pro debut down in Tempe — four hitless and scoreless innings with a trio of walks and strikeouts, four groundouts

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1919504255209099320

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Pineapple12

21 days ago

My 2025 prospect crush, Walbert Urena, with another good start in AA today!

5 innings
2 ER
1 hit
3 strikeouts
4 walks
46 strikes – 39 balls

Walbert’s control is unpolished, but his stuff is good. Only 21 years old.

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YOUknowulovetheIE

21 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Control seems like an organizational issue that will never be fixed.

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Turk's Teeth

21 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I watched it. The control and command were still rather problematic, especially in the last two innings. In a “good” outing, the hitters don’t make contact because they’re waiting out a walk or have no idea where the pitch is going. The problem is, neither does he!

Still seems like a clear-cut leverage reliever to me whose wildness and pitch inefficiency can work once through the order, but it’s going to be a challenge to get him to 6-7 innings reliably.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Neto (and O’Hoppe) are Blue Chipper’s.

Neto already has 7 stolen bases. I will always prefer teams that have speed. Slumps come & go, but speed is a constant.

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Pineapple12

21 days ago

Reply to BannedInLA

Neto is my favorite player on the team. Perry needs to extend him ASAP

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Fansince1971

21 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Do you really think Arte is in the mood to sign extensions after Trout and Rendon?

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Pineapple12

21 days ago

Reply to Fansince1971

Probably not. That doesn’t detract from it being the right decision for the org. Of course, if I’m Neto I’d hold off.

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Charles Sutton

21 days ago

Reply to Fansince1971

Let’s not forget that David Fletcher extension. I’m sure Arte hasn’t forgotten.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to Charles Sutton

Neto is the far superior raw athlete to Fletcher. He has more size, speed and power. Fletcher was an overachiever that couldn’t drive the ball.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Question: Are there any free agent relievers left that have not pitched for the Angels?

The Not list is probably shorter than the Did list.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Hunter Strickland has been called back to Perry’s bosom.

(Shudders at mental picture)

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Watching Moncada hit that 3-run jack last night will wring your hands in frustration over his healthy woes. This dude looks every bit the part of the “power hitting third basemen” doesn’t he? Adrian Beltre light.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to BannedInLA

I love that he switch hits.

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Twebur

21 days ago

I’ll take things that won’t likely happen for $1600 Alex

Trout ready to go soon?

10-day injured list retroactive to May 1.
Remember their words. Taken out for precautionary reasons, day-to-day he’s fine, then a trip to the IL, will be ready to go once off the IL in 10 days………Ready to go soon, right? Right? See you soon Trouty!

Ippei/Betts.com has it at +5500 he’s not ready to go when he’s eligible to come off the IL.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

A cancer. Hates baseball. Loves his kids.

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PedroCerrano

21 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I think he’s like Bo Jackson where this will be a chronic deal. When he runs, the ground shakes and unfortunately for him, that wears on his knees and hips.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

He can’t even grow a decent beard.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

You mean -5500 that he not ready to go on May 10th.

Based on absolutely nothing of substance, I’m going to take the positive position here and say that Trout is back & ready for action on the 10th (or is it the 11th).

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to BannedInLA

You gotta watch ur back being positive on this site BILA.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

I was sure to duck as I hit “Post Comment” but thanks.

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Twebur

21 days ago

Reply to BannedInLA

Correct on the + – …meant -5500…. You’re wrong that he’ll be back after the 10 day……..trAdition.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

No need to take a steaming dump on my attempt at Trout optimism. Reality will take care of that in a few days. Sigh.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT….oh sorry, school yard flashback.

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TrojanBoiler

21 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Your play by play from last week is coming true almost exactly hahaha

You forgot the part about additional testing reveals new information.

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MartyMcBigFly

21 days ago

I’ve been in and out of the telecasts lately but was glad to see a win and a Moncada sighting with a bomb.
Put me down for a couple of oven mitts. Grandma used to knit them, but her production has slowed down.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Hopefully the Jays FAFO tonight and we maybe……..dare I say…….win a series?

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Jeff Joiner

21 days ago

Having an actual MLB caliber third baseman on the roster pushes a guy who doesn’t belong in MLB out of the lineup.

Unfortunately, we replaced the constantly injured Rendon with a guy who lives on the IL nearly as often. I was on the site saying I would like to add Moncada.

Conversely, I’ve been watching the A’s a bit and Luis Arias has already put up 0.5WAR and has been healthy all for the price of $1.1 million for 2025.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

IMHO, no one in recent memory (Strasburg excepted) has lived on the IL (Infinity List) as much as Rendoomed.

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MartyMcBigFly

21 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

It’s crazy looking up at the A’s this year. How does a fraud like John Fisher have better scouting talent than us? Wait, I know the answer.
The Boxing was quite a letdown this weekend wasn’t it? I hope your Angels won. 👼

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I was saying above that Moncada certainly looks the part of “power hitting third baseman”, doesn’t he?

This is where the old refrain of “if he can stay healthy……” comes into play.

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TrojanBoiler

21 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

If both Trout and Moncada end up being healthy at the same time, do we move Paris back down to the minors? This would be the ideal scenario, even if it is short lived due to the likelihood of re-injury.

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BannedInLA

21 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Paris’ K rate is almost 41%

Yikes

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Pineapple12

21 days ago

Reply to BannedInLA

but why isn’t he batting leadoff?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

21 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

God. That like six day shitshow over Paris’s use in the line up…. we love to pat ourselves on the back for being a “more intelligent site” than other fan sites, and we are, but Jeeb’s Bus, we are really just a little less stupid collectively.

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steelgolf

21 days ago

Huh, they got a win, and it’s been less than a week since their previous win? Unpossible! I was going to go this Friday night, but since I’ve sort of checked out on this season, I’m opting instead to see a Japanese rockabilly band in Anaheim at a little place called Club L.

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DowningDude

21 days ago

Reply to steelgolf

The Angels attend Club L nearly nightly.

🤣

Have fun, my friend. Don’t do things we wudda done back in the day.

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Angelz4ever

21 days ago

Reply to steelgolf

Don’t they have a song, “…I think I’m turnin ‘Merican, I think I’m turnin ‘Merican I really think so”?

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steelgolf

21 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hope so !!!!

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Born_in_59

21 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

I don’t know who sung it, but there was a parody song “Turning Hakujin” that got a few plays on the Dr. Demento show. Hakujin being slang for “White People”.