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Angels News
Actual Angels News! Gold Glove finalists announced! Jo Adell and Griffin Canning are finalists. Yes, really, Jo Adell. He has really improved.
Around Baseball
Oh yeah, the other Gold Glove Finalists. I really don’t see how this list was made but Lindor was not on it and people are mad.
The MFY are now 2-0 in the ALCS. Because the Cleveland pitching stank.
Which means the chances of a Yankees Dodgers or Subway Series World Series is pretty high right now, and will be insufferable. Our hope lies in Cleveland of all places, and that is not looking so good right now.
Tropicana Field is roofless and will likely not get fixed as it would cost money and the Rays owners do not like spending it, especially since they are making a new stadium anyway. 100 Million dollars to fix that place, or spend time in Montreal? Is that really the option?
But the good news is that the Stingrays were safe and are now at an Aquarium. That is what truly matters.
Are National Broadcasters preferable in the playoffs? Or would home announcers be best? A mix?
Kershaw will pitch for the Dodgers next season. Just a few away from 3000K.
Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!
I have hated the Dodgers as much as anyone throughout my decades of Angel fandom. That comes from my childhood when my favorite Angels were completely irrelevant within regional and National discourse compared to the Dodgers. I was bitter that so few fans attended Angel games and rooted for the Angels by comparison to the Dodgers. So for the majority of my childhood, adolescence and adulthood, I hated on the Dodgers. It was an emotional response based mostly in jealousy and cross-town rivalry.
At this point in my life, that anger/passion has largely been replaced with a more analytical vantage. The vast chasm that exists between the way the Dodgers Org operates and how the Angels Org operates does not result in anger towards the Dodgers. It results in anger and frustration towards Arte and his minions. In short, my anti-Dodgers sentiment has been replaced with an anti-Arte sentiment. I can only wish the Angels Org was operated with 1/2 the skill, foresight, class and baseball knowledge as the Dodgers are. My disdain for the Dodgers has been replaced with respect for the Dodgers Org. I think the hate is better directed to the stooges named Moreno, Kuhl, Carpino and Jolly.
So – I totally understand the fans around here who are watching what the Dodgers are doing and are a bit in awe of it and not hateful. #savethehateforarte.
Dominant showing in NY. If they can just win one more in NY they come back to LA in a real good spot.
Sorry, I don’t understand why use an Angel site to celebrate Dodgers. There are plenty of Dodger sites fans can high five each other and rip on other teams not as good as they are.
Sorry, I don’t understand why Angel fans MUST hate the Dodgers and shouldn’t come to what is one of the best baseball sites on the net to chat. Perhaps you can enlighten us
It’s all good, but there are some on this site that aren’t fans of that team. You have no idea some of the continuous trolling some Angels fans deal with by Dodger fans even my kids at school. So yeah, I don’t want them wining
jap.wav – Jerome Brown at the pre-bowl banquet: “Did the Japanese, go and sit down and have dinner with Pearl Harbor, before they bombed them?”
And…you are?
Just an ordinary Angel/MLB fan who does not like LA blue.
And that means you get to decide what is discussed in the community?
Not at all. I stated I did not understand why, not Quit Posting Dodger wins.
Because you spend all year talking baseball with the same people every night, then the playoffs come around and you’d like to chat with the same people you’ve spent every night with for 162. Plus, most of us are just fans of the game.
I’m sorry the Dodgers are a sore spot for you and others, but they are literally the only team people complain about being discussed around here.
If the mods wanted to keep it Angels only the daily links wouldn’t link to other baseball and sports stories.
Most of us have known each other for years at this point and we just come here to shoot the shit.
I get and respect your insights. But you have me wrong as a 162 game Angel jar head. Big time Angels fan yes, but MLB first. My favorite all time players are Tony Gwynn and Buster Posey, for Angels Wally Joyner. This year I spoke with fans from Brewers, Sox, Cubs, A’s by traveling to those stadiums. I don’t wear my Angels gear at other places (unless they are playing) cause I feel that is silly. I am a jersey/cap collector and own an authentic from every team cept LA and Expos. I apologize for harsh criticism of Dodgers. It’s not jealousy, it’s from poking the bear to much until it bites back. There is no rivalry between Angels and Dodgers, they are always better. But then why do most blue fans hate and talk down about Angels, we’re not even in the same league. Anyways Go ahead keep your Go Dodgers thing. This is a mostly friendly site, and with respect to the main core I follow that.
Cool.
i love all the Dodger fans here but Mia, i’m not sure what you mean by “dominant in NY”?
Are you talking about the Yankees?
And what does “in a good spot” mean? what i see, they are about to be crushed in the Bronx (if they escape Queens). 😁
Looking forward to the remaining games of the year.
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overrated farm system…..last really good players produced
Julio Urias and Corey Seager
most of their best players were imported in …….Ohtani, Betts, Freeman. Hernandez, Edman, Glasnow.
You forgot Bellinger, Will Smith. I hate them, they spend millions on player development transforming late round draft picks into MLB ready. And they always get away with keeping their best prospects when making trades.
The Flushing Marine Layer
Vintage Buehler tonight.
90 pitches through 4? Is that his normal?
6 Ks over 4. Pitched out of a couple jams. You can see he’s still finding his groove. But i’ve watched every start since he came back and that’s the closest he’s looked to his old self.
His best outing since returning from TJS though.
GO METS!!!
Suck it latrines.
Sell Sell Sell!
https://sports.yahoo.com/white-sox-owner-jerry-reinsdorf-reportedly-in-discussions-about-selling-team-after-historically-bad-season-214446200.html
Dave Stewart in the mix as a potential buyer…interesting.
Smoke would straighten that group out post haste but fast.
So the Twins are up for sale and now the White Sox. Undoubtedly the smaller market teams and those without a separate television deal (like the Dodgers and Yankees have) are in somewhat panic mode. They are in a business where the price of talent has skyrocketed and now the underpinnings of that (television revenue) are greatly threatened. It will be very interesting to see if Arte is actually willing to invest substantially in free agency for ’25 to be “competitive” under the current circumstances and market. It will also be interesting to see if there are discounts in the free agent market in reaction to the revenue issues. Finally, it will be interesting to see what the White Sox and Twins sell for – my guess would be north of $1B and south of $2B.
Very interesting times after over a decade of record television revenue. The current situation has to impact the value of franchises which have skyrocketed with the increased television revenue.
Wow, the
IndiansGuardians just have no answer for the Bronx Bummers.Heavy sigh…..
Looks like when the Angels play one of the other 29 MLB teams.
Didn’t have cable this year and thus did not see many Angels game so I had no idea Adell was really, actually this improved defensively. Great for him.
Baseball has become a regional game. Nobody cares except fans of the specific teams playing. Given that, and the low quality of the new crop of play by play shouters, why not use the local guys. Either way, I’m not interested and not watching.
One more add-on, I can’t get to the remote fast enough when I see ARoid and Papiroid come on the pregame and post-game shows. I think the national sports networks need to learn how to respect the game of Baseball and the fans, young and old, to not showcase those that cheated the game. Writers have allowed at least 6 steroid users into the Hall of Fame and that is a disservice to the game and the fans too, imho.
I will also add that Shoeless Joe Jackson is a name most fans know of, and he was banned but not forgotten, Peter Rose broke the rules but will never be forgotten but, should never be in the HOF.
MLBNHOF (Major League Baseball National Hall Of Fame) is not on my bucket list as I find one entry most nauseating, the spineless induction of Bud Selig. The Hall of Fame just couldn’t say no to him as he could not say no to steroid users until the public had enough of the cheating.
Manfraud was his right-hand man for many years, and I’d think that he asked Selig what he would do with the sign stealing scandal and Bud who was close to the Houston owner and felt he owed him one for allowing the Asstros to move to the American League told Manfraud how to handle the punishment phase of that scandal. Being a Jelly Spined leader is just not a real leader at all. Making tough decisions is not easy, but making the right decisions is what needs to happen when protecting an organization like MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL, etc.
So tired of this take. Roids did not ruin the game of your youth and two guys who used them don’t ruin the broadcast. They are terrible announcers. That’s true. But has nothing to do with roids.
Jesus.
Most guys pinged by it were using when it wasn’t explicitly illegal re: MLBPA. Those folks need to be left alone. The ones who broke the rule, served the punishment.
But still folks feel the need to litigate it all the time.
Grandpa like most of us has principals…they cheated.
Using bullshit excuses will not make us stop litigating.
An old saying says, “Once a cheater always a cheater.”
I’m with you and GP.
So, what you see to interrupt is if there is no specific written explanation of an offence of cheating, then it is not cheating. The playing field of sports is that all participants play to the best of their God given talent against your God given talent, not God given talent aided by chemistry. As far as the amount of players that used steroids, what we can agree on is that no one person will ever know of all those that were involved.
As far as two steroid users on pre and post-game telecasts ruining it, there I will disagree as I have no respect nor the time to spend listening to their expect explanations.
Did you ever notice that not one steroid user never talked about the brand they used, the amount they used, where they bought the stuff and only 3 ever said that they used (McGwire, Arod and Papi.)? When you know you are cheating the fewer that are aware of your truth the easier the denial will be.
Lastly is the number of records that dell while the steroid period was taking place, which has in its own right tarnished the sport.
It’s interesting the ones who seem to speak the loudest for Rose, are the same who also ban the “cheaters”. As if it’s ok to break the RULE ON THE BOOKS because gritty hustle.
Rose belongs in the HOF because he was a great player, but he decided HE was ABOVE the rules, (I’m Pete Fu**ing Rose!) and they didn’t apply to him, then endlessly whined about it – which seems not very gritty. I don’t see any argument that avoids this but always finds way to excuse it. H
He’s now completely dead, and I would guess this does not change.
plus that ridiculous haircut
Leo Durocher had his team cheat to win the National League pennant in 1951 and is in the hall of fame. Hank Greenberg cheated to win a batting title, as a GM he traded away a player who said he wouldn’t cheat, and Greenberg is also in the hall of fame. Seems to me that the hall of fame doesn’t have a problem with letting cheaters in.
I’ve never heard this about Hank Greenberg. What are you saying he did?
Sign stealing helped the Tigers win the 1940 pennant – Vintage Detroit Collection is an article that quotes from Greenberg’s autobiography that was published after his death. And I apologize, it was the 1940 American Legue pennant, not a batting title.
If without technology, or others in the stands, etc., sign stealing is not cheating.
Quote from the linked story: “Greenberg went on to explain that the team brought one of the minor league managers into Detroit and he sat up in the upper deck with binoculars where he gave the signals. Even when the stands were full Greenberg said the players knew exactly where he was sitting and could pick up the signs.”
I do agree with your point. If it’s players on the field or people in the dugout, it’s not cheating.
That completely changes things, yeah, that’s most def cheating.
Your points on MLB commissioners stance on steroids is valid. If you want to rip the announcers, that’s funny. Look at your Dodger team, and Mannywood, is he still getting paid? Recent example, that former allstar who isn’t in regular lineup for Mets JD Martinez. In 2022 had 16Hr 64 rbi, older player Boston let him go. Dodgers 2023 had 34hr 105 rbi in 400+AB. This year back to 16Hr 69rbi with same #AB?? There are plenty of users today, some teams are just better at hiding it. It gets pointless to keep hating on just the guys who got caught, even though it’s fun.
I hate the guys who didn’t get caught like Ortiz, Brady Anderson. I’m not fond of Jim Thome and I have a don’t look too closely policy about Troy Glaus
Ortiz was strongly implicated
He even admitted that he used steroids prior to the vote into the MLBHOF.
well then how is he in the HoF?
Backyard Baseball the game
Rather than JD went on the juice for a year and then it stopped working, maybe his success was due to the information the Dodgers organization was able to give him. Say what you will about the “Evil Empire of the North”, they do invest in scouting and data analytics.
Grandpa, don’t let your feelings on the steroids issue keep you away from visiting the HOF. For anyone who loves baseball as you and I do, it is a must-do. I had the opportunity to visit in the late 90’s and would dearly love to go back. Be sure to plan a two day trip as there is so much to see. You will love it!
I have been their twice, once as a child and once when an adult, had always wanted to return, just not now. Today I and GrammaBaseball wanted to spend 3 or 4 days prior to the enshrining’s. I have never seen any of my favorites accepted into the HOF or gotten to see the dtage of all the Hall Of Famers on stage except on TV. Happy for you to have spent more than one visiting Cooperstown. (a little jealous also 😆 )
In all fairness G-Pa, Big Papi did say he was disappointed when Manny Ramirez was caught on PED, of course that was before Big Papiu himself was implicated, but that’s not what we’re talking about.
I hope that Kershaw pitches in one more season healthy and then retires, what a great career, a Hall of Fame career I might add. Great team player too.
Baseball Broadcasters are not as good as what we heard in the 20th century. Just about every city had HoF types behind the mic and if their team made the WS they were invited to do a few innings at some point during the home games on National TV. Today the National and Regional guys do not know the game and have no real presentence as really being special.
Our play by play guy adds nothing to the Angel broadcasts aside from his ego and knowledge of teams other than the Angels. I feel I am listening to another team’s announcer when he is in the booth on his off days from broadcasting nationally.
Matty V. is a great announcer but asking him to cover the West Coast losing team was hard for him for a few years as he seemed out of place, and now either I’m used to him, or I just have lost interest in who calls our games.
I”m glad you like him. I have the MLB package so I listen to a lot of local announcers in order to follow my fantasy baseball players on those teams. Without exception, I find them better in the sense they appear to be engaged in the team they are broadcasting. I honestly have never listened to an announcer who is less engaged in the Angels in this guy. As you said, it’s a West Coast losing team, and his ego doesn’t allow for him to invest. I’m okay with that. I’m sure he will take the next better offer and I’m just fine with that.
It could be worse – we could have Paddy McHomer for 150 games.
😃 😀 😊 Go DODGERS!!!! 🤗 😜 😎 Take it to the Mets and show NYC some SoCal kick your ass Baseball!!!
It’s too early G-Pa, toooo early for that.
Too early for what? There is a game tonight.
Mesa Solar Sox 15 Scottsdale Scorpions 2
Four Angel prospects did good…box score.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/scorpions-vs-solar-sox/2024/10/15/787619/final/box
Next game vs Peoria Javelinas is tonight.
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/javelinas-vs-solar-sox/2024/10/16/787617/preview