Bobby Valentine Talking about the Infamous Dugout Disguise Overshadows Angels Loss to Mets

Boy, what a boring game. Tyler Anderson looked mid and hittable, the youngsters continued to hit as though our playoff window is 10 years away, and every single facet of the game felt like a Mets exhibition match against their homonymous AAA squad. They ran and we failed to stop them. They grounded and we failed to field the ball. And the worst part of it all is that I started asking my little screen to stop cutting back to the game because the conversation between Valentine and Gubi was far and away more interesting.

Okay, so I’m being a little hyperbolic. Luis Guillorme did make one play that was absolutely jaw-dropping.

And that is it.

That is the only positive thing I have to say.

Anderson’s start wasn’t the worst of the season, but it sure felt like it at times, with him allowing 10 baserunners in only 5 innings of work. Maybe context plays a role here since I never felt any tension; it just felt like we were getting battered by a better baseball team. The fact that the Mets were held to only 5 runs speaks to, astonishingly, good luck on my part as the postgame writer.

Heck, even the run we did score felt like a gift. Adell’s RBI single to drive in Moniak only barely eked into the outfield and it probably could have been stopped, but we take the very small consolations with the bad.

Speaking of small consolations, Jose Soriano pitches tomorrow. I don’t know about you guys, but I look forward to those when I’m forced to pay attention to mediocrity’s unholy incarnation.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago

Wash has been reading CTPG.

halofansince1978
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We know that other managers and front offices have.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago

Welp Mooreā€™s has had 3 at bats in AA tonight. Reached on an error, singled and hit a solo home run.

See you in a few weeks Christian .

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The boy likes to hit.

Twebur
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4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Other panda newsā€¦..Sammy got lit up like a Christmas tree.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Klassen starting for IE tonight.

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago

Wait. Are they really going to do a repeat of that absolutely horrendous broadcast last night? Might be the worst Iā€™ve ever heard.

steelgolf
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yes, they are REALLY going to do it again.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
4 months ago

Got burnt out paying to watch Angels lose games, went on 3 day staduim trip. Flew into Milwaukee for Brew Crew vs Braves, next day Sox vs Royals, then Cubs vs Cards. Great to see teams actually in playoff hunt with star players. Still say our stadium one of the best. Parking reasonable, tailgate-able, variety of food choices, $4.50 12oz beer, on-site micro brew, weather. Miller park is beautiful, , $15 park, tailgate w/bbq all over lot, cheap $11.99 20oz draft Lite beer, but standard all the same food stands. Great Rate Sox $30 park, $12.49 20oz draft beer, best stadium food, still serve the Kommisky polish dog. Wrigley go for classic nostalgia, awesome crowd energy, but bad $70 parking and disappointing food choices w/ Dodger beer prices. If any are tired of beaches and scenery, highly recommend sports tour trips.

Brent
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

May be moving onto the Mississippi River for my next duty location, about 3 hrs from Chicago. Would love to get some more midwest parks in like those three.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

some rehashed newsā€¦..and, I did not know this about Narron

Here’s what the Angels are doing with Jo Adell in CF.

Also, Angels catching coach Jerry Narron was a part of some sad baseball history 45 years ago this weekend.

Plus, Wash on Christian Moore.

https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1819528301654036714

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

You are a bottomless well of information sir.

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

In Reggie’s book, I recall he talked about flying into John Wayne on a small plane piloted by Munson. I guess Munson wanted to fly down from Oakland and meet the team in Anaheim to keep up on his flying . Reggie said he thought they would crash as it was one the scariest flying events of his life . Of course the Yankees didnt win another World Series after winning 2 in a row just prior to Munsons death until the late 1990’s when the Jeter/O’Neill/Rivera/Posada dynasty was at their peak.

O’Hoppe can be that guy. Let’s just hope he doesn’t have an infinity to learn to be a small plane pilot.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/ranking-the-prospects-traded-at-the-2024-deadline/

These rankings show we did great on the Estevez trade, that we got some bodies for Garcia.

Last edited 4 months ago by MarineLayer
DowningDude
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4 months ago

Congratulations everyone! We found something else to complain about!

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Tip cap, turn page.

halofansince1978
Super Member
4 months ago

Go Giants…anybody but the dodgers!!

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago

No, not go the team of Barroids. F them.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

They hate SoCal with every ounce of their being. Itā€™s actually weird how unhinged they are. I should know, I live there.

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

10000% ML.

P.S. Thank You for the water.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Ahhhh. Can you feel it?

We are just about there CtPG Guys. The point at which the Angel’s level of suck actually matches your level of bitch. We just need to get to 2026 without Arte going on a spending spree. Once we lose a couple more players, especially if Perry is truly so stupid so the Kids don’t develop fast…. oh man are we gonna be hot garbage. PLUS injured Trout!

You’ve said it so many times, so many ways, calling for the worst. It’s almost here. Tonight was just a taste. Keep up the ju ju boys. Baseball hell awaits.

But we do have one more year of Anderson, Ward and Rengifo left. We do have that. Plus poncho night! Probably.

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago

Mathematically you are talking about:

Suck/Bitch = 1

Somehow I think that the Bitch factor will always be higher around here no matter how high the level of suck.

Last edited 4 months ago by Fansince1971
steelgolf
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4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Your theory would be correct.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Isn’t that the definition of exaggeration?

So shouldn’t the ratio be calculated as Bitch/Suck so its always over 1 ?

Fansince1971
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think you have a valid argument that the divider should be suck.

My thought was ā€œsuckā€ was always less than ā€œbitchā€ but it might be better that ā€œbitchā€ is greater than ā€œsuckā€.

Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

Mickey Moniak has quietly turned his season around.

emphasis on quietly

https://x.com/SamBlum3/status/1819566885480157222

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Not possible. I don’t know what Sam was looking at. Moniak’s average by month.
April. .155
May. .188
June .237
July . 239

His OBA and Slugging Avg were actually worse in July. Better is relative. He’s been less bad but still quite bad.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I donā€™t put him in the success bucket for Minasian, heā€™s just a warm body taking up space until we can find a winner after Arturo/Minasian are gone.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I’m sure his last 2 games have skewed the rates stats, but according to Baseball Reference, from Jun 8 thru Aug 2 Moniak has a .268 BA, .314 OBP and .451 SLG. He was 1 for 13 in June prior to the 8th, so that also skewed things a bit.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Also, based on the at bats stated, Blum was writing this after Moniak started the Aug 2 game with two singles and before he made two more out.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Great stuff 59 thanks for looking this up. Somehow, the 1st 7 days of June were bad enough to keep his June BA at .237 but his last three weeks of June were good enough, possibly with some July and the 1st couple of days of August, to overcome the entire month of .239 July so that what you stated is true. It seems almost impossible but I understand. The bottom line though is that although what Sam said is statically accurate it’s misleading because he actually did hit .239 in July after hitting .237 in June, and his rate numbers in July were worse than June. So it’s all true and totally crazy. He’s had good and bad windows but no real trend other than that the fact that June and July were better than March and April. It’s Fascinating, let’s see ho August goes.

And I think that’s really his issue, he needs to be more consistent.

Last edited 4 months ago by Roy Hobbs
Twebur
Legend
4 months ago

New employees from the Red Soxs getting some work done tonight for SL.
Kavadas – 2 bagger Heā€™s DHā€™ed in almost 70 games in the minors, just saying
Lugo – HR

Last edited 4 months ago by Twebur
Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

The Garcia Pile was a collective 5 for 10 with a HR and 2 doubles. Lugo manned left field tonight for the bees even though there was some discussion he would play the infield . The Zeferjahn was not so effective tonight giving up 2 hits including a HR in one inning of work even though he struck out 2.

steelgolf
Legend
4 months ago

Guillorme is garbage as a 2nd baseman. Embarrassingly bad.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Well, he also canā€™t hit, so thereā€™s that.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

So with Trouts season ending injury the Angels effectively now have 3 open spots on the 40 man roster but to the best of my knowledge Perry has not filled any of them. I think there are plenty of position candidates at AAA & some pitching candidates at AA and with the breakout of Christian Moore I suspect they are hoping to fill one of those spots in the next few weeks.

I believe Perry is hoping to trade some of the AAAA players at Salt Lake not on the 40 man including Keston Huiua who is just destroying the ball for the Bees batting .374/.457/.934 with 16 HRs and 32 RBIs in just 105 PA’s sandwiched around a lackluster but short Angel debut of 10 games hitting 4 singles in 27 AB’s. Or Jake marisnick who is now finally healthy.

With Rengifo going on the IL to join Rendon and the continued suckage of Guillorme and Drury the Angels really dont have any great replacement options at second or third other than bringing Paris back up ( who I think is hurt) the aforementioned Hiura or maybe little Jack Lopez. It’s kind of like it’s Rengifo & Moore at second and third or bust next year . I also think the Angels were counting on Cole Fontenelle to ascend to the majors but with the uncertainty with his horrific injury suffered early in the year they are left with absolutely no depth for at least one half of their infield going into 2025.

Cowboy26
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4 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Matthew Lugo did play 32 games B base for the Chowds’ AA team in 2023 and 72 games at shortstop for the Chowds’ 2022 high A team , but the error totals and defensive results are not promising. Unless the Angels think Wash can work his magic with Lugo’s infield skills, I think he’ll be a LF/RF option for the Halos next year

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago

It looks like Steven Tylerā€™s throat meniscus surgery didnā€™t work and heā€™s back on the IL. Could even be retiring

DowningDude
Legend
4 months ago

Stupid Arte will hire him now to sing the national anthem.

MarineLayer
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Hilarious.

angelslogic
Super Member
4 months ago

Muted the audio in the 5th inning. I couldnā€™t take it anymore. I pay for MLB-TV to watch the Angels baseball team on the field, NOT the clowns in the booth. The broadcast team had way too much face time tonight. It is the worst broadcast of a baseball game I have ever seen.

HaloLew
Trusted Member
4 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

So cringy just like the way the entire organization is run.

RexFregosi
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  angelslogic

anyone with mlbtv should be watching the Mets broadcast all weekend
ā€” Captain Obvious

DowningDude
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Whoa holdup. This wasn’t just a one night stand with Gubi & Bobby Valentine????

steelgolf
Legend
4 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Nope, they are going to roll with this for a few games. They are trying to sell it as ā€œcutting edgeā€ broadcasting, when it is really just ā€œcutting costsā€ broadcasting.

DowningDude
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4 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Oh good grief.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 months ago

If we win our last 52 games we would tie with the 2002 team.

I think Iā€™ll go see what rocket city and inland empire did.

Also, did Nolan the intern skedaddle? I wouldnā€™t blame him

DowningDude
Legend
4 months ago

If Pigs could fly, the Queen would be the King.

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halofansince1978
Super Member
4 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

My Aunt would be my Uncle.