Ken Rosenthal has reported that Raisel Iglesias has re-signed with the Angels for 4 years. This is huge for the team, as D-Cell has been one of the best and reliable closers in recent years and was one of the bright spots last year.
At 4/58, the deal is at 14.5M per year. A much lower AAV than the QO. Since the Angels kept their own player, they do not receive a draft pick. They don’t lose one either, besides the one already lost when Thor was signed.
We will keep you updated with further updates.
Yep………..I wuz wight. Relievers are a hell of a lot cheaper than Gerritt Cole and Max Scherzer cost. $7M a yr for two years to the guy above. Mark Melencon formerly of the San Diego Padres/2021 MLB saves leader. Arte you sneaky dog you!!
No wonder you were OK with resigning Raisel……..
Every single baseball fan in the world understands that SP is more expensive than RP. WTF are you talking about?
The theory is ol’Cheap n Evil didn’t sign any of the top 4 starters on purpose because he’s cheap and evil.
Instead he engages in these elaborate dramas where it looks like he’s trying to sign these guys so that the fans stay off his case but he is really trying NOT to sign these guys.
He does this because he’s engaged in an even bigger theater production where he signs Mike Trout, Upton, Rendon etc to huge contracts so it looks like he wants to win, but avoids signing pitching on purpose because he doesn’t really want to actually win.
Now, some of the geniuses on HH/CtPG were getting wise to his plan to make some money, but not nearly as much money as winning would bring in, so in order to throw them off his scent but still enjoy the thrill of not signing pitchers, he set about buying the stadium and beginning the process of eventually building a new one himself.
This year’s twist is he signs inexpensive bullpen arms so he can look like he’s trying, while desperately avoiding signing the starters he was trying to sign. He is only 72.6% in instead of ALL IN and also his grit is fine and dusty so he doesn’t get it done the way a body building eagle would.
It’s all to serve his ego. Lay the blame squarely at his feet. As long as he draws 2.3 million fans and builds some condos he is apparently happy. Fight the power. Billboards. President of Baseball Ops. Blah blah blah.
Arte should rename HIS TEAM the Los Angeles Pirates of Anaheim….
💩 💩 😭
We will be in company with the total rebuild Athletics in the AL West basement.
Maybe you should change your name to dumbshit.
Damn dude, you’ve gone full on troll here.
I have never jumped on you for your comments, but we will not be a last place team nor do we in any way resemble the Pittsburg Pirates. That is just asinine imho. I do believe you post comment just to get a response or maybe you need attention. You and Bradlee are constantly negative, and I just do not get it.
Which Bradllee?
Grandpa- I finally decided the best thing to do with 2002 is ignore him completely. He is like a misbehaving child who is acting out for attention. Just ignore him and hopefully he will stop his mindless and over-the-top screaming and crying.
he’s just a troll at this point
But CtPG just can’t stop replying to 2002
I’ll admit to that.
Its like rubber necking at the car wreck you pass by on the freeway. You just can’t look away.
Serenity NOW!
And the lockout begins
Good news. The WNBA tips off in mid-May so we’ll still have exciting professional sports that are every bit as good as other pro leagues to dig into even if the lockout runs long. Once you feast your eyes on those lay ups and 20ft jumpers you’ll never want to stop.
I’m also excited for professional cornhole on ESPN!
Why are the Angels interested in Kris Bryant? What’s the need for him? Sign and trade?
They need someone to bat .247?
Arte just likes position players. This is so ridiculous. I can’t believe he doesn’t understand that pitchers win games. Or maybe you need 9 Mike Trouts but that doesn’t exist!
Khris Davis?
I always get my Khrises confused.
Because Jon Heyman said so.
If Jon Heyman said the
AngelsPirates of Anaheim won’t be good I’ll believe him THIS TIME!Here, let me help you out with this. The Angels FO calls Boras Corp about an FA pitcher or SS or what ever. They talk about that guy some. Then Boras says “Hey, you know, I’ve got a guy who doesn’t play any of the positions you need but is an MVP award winner and World Champion who looks great in red and only wants the 200M he deserves for his years of brave service. What do you think of Kris Bryant? Heh? Hehhhh?”
Angels FO… “Oh yeah, Kris, he’s great too. Yah. Great player. Now about that relief pitcher….”
To Boras, and thus Heyman, this equals “INTEREST”.
The Angels have nowhere to play Bryant. Not LF. Not 3B. Not 1B and not DH. This is most likely to drag more money out of the Mariners, Padres or Phillies since I have no idea why the Mets, Astros or Angels would want him and the Rockies just let Story walk because he’ll be expensive and they are rebuilding.
Boras sees teams as interested in the way a stalker sees the hot check out girl at Target as interested. Don’t believe any rumor about Boras clients until you see something like “serious negotiations” printed…. something an FO has to deny even if it gets them on his bad side.
Meanwhile those other teams get better and we’re not.
😠 😡 💩 💩 😫
Maybe the billionaire 75 yr old fantasy draft player wins if the 2022 season is cancelled………HEY THAT’S IT!! I FIGURED IT ALL OUT!!
💪 💪 💪 👈
Hey 2002 , I’ll let you in on a little secret.🤐The 2022 season has already been canceled in fact they may never play major league baseball again. So there’s no reason to come back to CTPG ever again. The Rams are pretty screwed up now and could really use your help. You should take your talents over to Turfshowtimes. I’m sure you’ll make a lot of new friends over there.
Probably means Perry isn’t really the GM. 😣 😠
Trade precursor makes most sense. Improve the OF offense and trade from OF prospect depth to acquire frontline starter with money previously allocated to acquire FA pitching.
Stroman: 3 years, $71M
un-fucking-believeable
I feel better knowing the price.
That doesn’t seem so crazy to me.
no, it’s reasonable in this market but while we’re excited about the signings so far (excluding Lorenzon) there must be a limit to what Arte will allow and I think if we spend $15mil on a pitcher and another $9-10mil on a shortstop we’d end up with more overall value. Maybe. I don’t know. I’m jus a fan, spouting off.
If it’s Arte who is calling the GM shots (which I think it is) then we should just expect nothing to change. I wish he’d just leave the baseball to baseball people. But he won’t. 🤷
I’m with you in that I thought Stroman would get a little more, like 24M a year. Unlike you, I doubt PTP wanted to pay that. I hope he didn’t. And yes, as is the case with every fucking team in the MLB, the owner almost certainly had some say in a 71 million dollar contract decision. Do you honestly think there’s an FO out there just putting contracts like that in front of an owner and he just signs it? “Well herr dee derr Andrew Freidman. You said he good so here’s that 70 million bucks you asked for…”
My guess, and my hope, is that after the last round of numbers on Stroman offers came through Arte n the FO did a quick “here’s all the things we want/need. Here’s a list of players we can get with a combined 21M. Or we can have Stroman’s 130-50 solid innings. What do we want to do?” and they passed on ol’Stroman. Since he wound up with the Cubs I’d imagine a couple teams did that.
The good news is that, if we were in on Stroman to that point, we most likely still have a chunk of money to spend, maybe not 20M but more than 4 or 5 million.
Yeah – I’m disappointed but I can get over it. Starting pitching is overrated anyway. Get a couple more good relief arms after the lockout is over and I’ll be fine with it. If leads can be held 6th inning and beyond this team has a chance.
SP isn’t overrated……..BP’s are..
I already figured that out for CTPG!
Oh, thank you, THANK YOU for your incomparable wisdom!!!!
Well, having watched multiple winning teams struggle to win a WS or make the post season, I’d say that both are pretty important, but if you have neither, you should try to improve both.
And if you’re on CtPG you demand both be raised to the level of the Dodgers right away and that all prospects blossom and injuries never happen.
Anthony DeSclafani $12M/3 yrs
Steven Matz $11M/4 yrs
$23M a yr for both guys……..wow what a financial backbreaker for a team who agreed to sign Justin Upton to a 5 yr deal for $21.5M a year in 2017. 😡 💩 and $21M for a guy who pitched just two innings last season……..SMFH!!
Are there anymore bad moves we can make out there?
Yes. All you have to do is force Matz and DeSclafani to sign here instead of the places they chose to play. 🛎 🔚
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfYkhQblYjY
I figured we would lose out.
If PTP can sign a guy like Kwang Hyun Kim, Tyler Anderson or Michael Pineda it will free him up to package Suarez, Barria type guys with Adell and trade for a guy like Gray. Add a guy like Blake Parker or Alex Colome to the pen… is good. Starting rotation…
Ohtani
Syndergaard
Sandoval
Gray
Lorenzen
Anderson/Kim/Pineda
You can win a lot of games with that.
Also, who here thinks GMs are not going to be talking to each other about trade ideas while the owners are off drinking rum punch and decrying greed? Day 1 of the new CBA is gonna blow up…. or rather day 3 as the GMs needed two days to suddenly put together the trades they weren’t working on at all during the lockout.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.rQkXRavYkyjInFyWzR9vdgHaE8?pid=ImgDet&rs=1
POBO’s, GM’s, Farm System directors, good SP’s are all overrated…….but not MIB sunglasses!! 💪 💪 💪
Dear 2002Hobo, what does this reply have to do with the comment? You’re like a meth head bouncing a bunch of stream of consciousness out your fingers, accept it’s just one constant stream of basically the same thought over and over.
O’l CheapnEvil really is your Phyllis Dietrichson isn’t he? You just can’t get him out of your head.
We’re still waiting for your IIWPM there Fisher King.
You all laffed when I sat down to play the piano. Now look. Ha-HA!
You all laffed when I said Reid Detmers would get Cy votes in Nov ’22. We shall see, mi amigos. We shall see.
Speaking of seeing…has anyone seen my meds?
So: we have no SS, no backup catcher, but worse: 3 SP who can reliably give us Quality Starts. We need 4 QS guys, at minimum.
Let’s never forget: we have Junk, too.
And: what’s the story on Story? Will the Ms get him? Looks like it.
I like Josh Harrison at 2nd, Fletch at SS if we don’t nab Story.
I can’t effing stand Correa. To me, all those Trash-Holes are tainted forever. I want to go on hating him, wherever he ends up (looks like he won’t sign until lockout is over). If he comes here, I’ll take quite awhile before I’m able to rearrange neural pathways to the point of, “C’mon Carlos! Lousy knock here, baby!”
He’s not as vile (to me) as Bauer or Treinen, though.
We are going to sign Matthew Boyd. 😂Another washed up pitcher.
No, but we will complain when Boyd signs elsewhere
Wait. Why am I supposed to hate Blake Treinen?
Because wherever he goes it’s Treinen camp?
the players are talking about how tonight’s “deadline” is not a deadline at all and they think there’ll be an agreement by the end of the month. And then we can sign or trade for the guys we need.
We will probably sign Clayton Kershaw because Arte can get him at a discounted rate for an “Ace”. To my knowledge, he’s not the pitcher he once was.
Classic Halos fan gallows humor, Angels22. Well done. BraVO!
Yes, we’re trying sign Kershaw month to month
Lockout in T-minus 3.5 hrs
They met earlier today and the meeting ended after 7 minutes. I take it they were “not close” on an agreement.
No surprise. I really believe this thing does not resolve until both sides feel pain – so like in May. Then a month of spring training and a 100 game season.
I read Rangers are seeing if they have trade pieces for Castillo, Gray, Mahle. Knowing our luck, they will make the trade and get Castillo and Gray. If that happens, Angels are screwed.
If the Rangers pull that off and we whiff on all of these candidates, it’d be another feckless Angels offseason in my opinion. Oh boy, that would be bleh.
The Rangers have a lot of middle infielder depth since Seager and Semien, so honestly won’t be surprised if they can swing the trade. Not sure what needs the Red’s have for there rebuild though. I heard Mariners looking at Story.
If the Rangers pull that off they will have traded everyone off their farm including Jung (and taken Euginio Suarez off the Red’s hands).
Stroman is a no-go man.
To the Cubs. What a disaster. Now we have to go the trade route and probably give up Marsh.
k gimme correa now.
Fast pass on Correa. I’d gladly accept Simba on a 3 year valued deal if it meant we could get more starting or relief pitching.
I personally would find it harder to root for Simba than Correa, but I recognize it is an individual decision.
I’m not holding decisions made by anyone in 2020 against them.
I’m thinking value for $$ not fan loyalty
I don’t think Simba will get a 3 year deal. It will be a 1-yr deal or 1 yr with an option.
Even better!
I’d trade the future to win in the next two years, especially if that’s a top flight pitcher. Honestly, it’s the pussyfooting with going all in or tanking and rebuilding that I think has killed us these last years. I mean, what are we going to do, have a few losing seasons after the dust settles (hopefully with some fun in the playoffs)? We’ve had 6 of those already in the last 6 years.
I don’t think the Cubs know what they are doing.
They give all indications of going into tank mode, then they sign an expensive frontline starter. Wha?
I mean, why get rid of Rizzo, and Bryant and Baez and Schwarber if you are not tanking? If tanking is your plan, then by all means, tank! But don’t go half assed with your tank, which is what they are doing by signing Stroman.
They are doing what everyone was screaming for Arte to do in 2016, sign pitching with no line up to speak of. Now we can see if it works.
Or they can just be like us and BSing our fan base that were gonna pursue a good SS and good SP and then lie about it.
Besides they probably received some pretty good young prospects for those guys.
Yikes looks looks like Cubs are favorites for Stroman now – which is surprising. Seems more and more likely that there will be no more major pieces added (aside from SS who I hope is not Correa)
They’re signing him.
I think that our OF should be set with Marsh in CF, Trouty in RF, and Adell in LF and Upton as needed. At this point it would be unwise to off Marsh as he has 4 of the 5 tools needed. Trout can field first when Walsh sits too with Adell moving to RF and JUp to LF. Besides both Marsh and Adell are still less money than someone they would be traded for. As far as Castillo trade, Canning and Detmers and Barria are expendable.
Trout is never ever going to play 1B. If anything, I could see them making Upton play 1B when spelling Walsh for a day. Upton is a terrible defender, you don’t ever put him in the OF over Trout…
Taylor back to the Dodgers. Melancon to the DBacks. Knebel to the Phillies.
Taylor is gone, back to the Doyers.
Too bad as he would have been a great piece, but he really was not a good SS, better at utility role. We need a real SS who can field and a 180-200 inning pitcher.
Baez to the Tigers.
Seager to the Rangers.
😂
Lindor to the Mets.
Quentin flew out to center.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvdNCDVmRPo
And Granderson seems to not be available, either.
He’s available. Just doesn’t want to come to the Angels
His words, exactly?
Uhaul’s wife told us
there were only 20 pitchers in all baseball last season to throw 180 innings or more. Only 4 who threw 200 or more. Castillo, who’s been mentioned in trade talks, was one of them in the 180-199 range. He also had the worst whip of any of those 20.
So Castillo is basically an innings-eater, but he’s gonna give up more runs. Meh.
Oh yeah, Castillo had a 1.36 WHIP last year. That’s… average. Probably got a longer leash to throw more innings simply because he was on a non-contending Reds team. Don’t think that’s someone you have to give up a lot in return for a trade.
Let’s see Robbie Ray, Steven Matz, Anthony DeScafani, Kevin Gausman………
But we signed Noah Syndergard who made just two starts and pitched just two innings.
Brutal off season 😠 😭
I think you’re deliberately trolling now.
How is that trolling if don’t say Ha Ha after it?
This is brutal and now I feel like a pirates fan on Buc’s Dugout over at SB nation.
Why the hell is our owner acting like were a poor low budget small market team when he has MLB’s second largest cable TV deal?
I’ll beat you to it gitch… 2002, still waiting for your IIWPM post….. Troll all you want but no one listens until you put in some work and try to give an actual solution to the problem.
But everyone keeps commenting.
His troll powers are 100%
You know youre right
I think were gonna win the World Series next year..
^^^^This
I already did
several times over and over and over. Mine was that we needed two frontline SP’s to add to Ohtani (no I’m not cool with guy who has a bad injury history and to me he’s nothing more than a way more expensive Tim Lincecum). DeSclafani already resigned and we’re just sitting on hands watching other teams better themselves this week. I figured we would have to get one through trade and one by FA. So Arte couldn’t outbid for Steven Matz? How about our former GM (Billy Eppler just beat us to the punch and snagged the best pitcher in FA….a guy who I spent the last 4 yrs going back to Halos Heaven bashing and trashing).
No, we want to see your specific plan. Names, payroll numbers, etc so we can see that your ideas actually worked at the end of the season and we can all say, damn, that dude’s super smart muscle muscle eggplant lipstick laugh face.
My guess is that you are 16 years old
We had Raisel last year so what good did it do?
How about we look at why SP’s are getting snatched up like toilet paper in March of 2020 as opposed to Kenley Jansen who’s still unsigned. What do these other teams know that we do not?
And also rainbows, what’s up with rainbows man?
Do you think we could break the burial ground curse at the Big A by throwing you into a volcano or something? THAT would be a big off season move. Do you possibly have a brain cloud? How do you feel about orange Crush soda? I think Big Woo is calling you buddy. Pele needs boys and I think you should be our guy, then you can look down with joy and satisfaction as the Angels sign guys like Robert Gselman and they transform into Kevin Gaussman, and at night you can watch Farhan Zaidi or Eric Neander sleep, soflty strumming your ghost mandolin while you sing them love songs barely heard.